Saturday, August 16, 2014

Stupidity.. Quackery.. Science denial in the days of EBOLA



The other week I wrote dōTERRA legal about a claim I found tied to a website plugging the use of essential oils to cure Ebola.
I had shared the post with Skeptical Medicine on Facebook  & the dōTERRA company did something to remove or block the dangerous post that was claiming essential oils could do something to kill Ebola Virus.

https://www.facebook.com/SkepticalMedicine?ref=br_tf..


How much wrong can you find in this statement? : 
"The reason doctors can't do anything for viruses is because viruses live inside of your cell's walls, and medicine particles can't penetrate those walls. Essential oils, however, have super ...tiny particles and a makeup that allows them to pass through with no problem! They go in, kill the virus while also stopping the viral cells from duplicating, and all the while boost the immune system so the body can continue to fight for itself. We've found that we can kill viral infections in 12-48 hours, depending on how quickly we start using oils."


I hoped  no one else would  publish or do really stupid stuff to misinform the public about the dangers of Ebola  then came the Natural News article claiming a homeopathic cure for Ebola.. I and many others reached out to the medical community & the news  to do something to call that out.

I tweeted the WHO on their position on Homeopathy for the treatment of Ebola .. sharing with them the Natural News connect. They in a nut shell tweeted back they had already stated that Homeopathy is not shown to be a cure for EBOLA to seek professional medical attention if sick with Ebola. 

Thankfully someone at Natural News pulled the blog post that was encouraging people to obtain bodily fluids of people with Ebola and make a homeopathic medicine using the fluids..

From New York Daily News.com
"The antidote requires..
  • A face mask and gloves
  • Two bottles (50 ml up to 500 ml glass or plastic bottles) with caps
  • Clean water (mineral or tap)
  • An Ebola sample: some spit or other disease product, such as blood, from a person infected with Ebola, or who is suspected sick with it. Any small quantity will do, even a pinhead.
  • An alcoholic liquid, such as whisky, brandy, rum, etc.
  • Half an hour of your time
 procedure:

  • Fill the bottle with water, leaving about 20% space at the top.
  • Place the Ebola sample in the water in the bottle.
  • Close the top of the bottle with the cap.
  • Hold the bottle and strike it hard against a solid surface, such as a large book, 40 times.
  • Pour out the contents of the bottle.
  • Refill the bottle with water (the fluid remaining on the inside surface of the bottle will serve as the next Ebola sample).
  • Repeat steps 3 to 6 a total of 30 times. 
Then, drink the solution. "
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/website-claims-treat-ebola-natural-remedy-article-1.1899587#ixzz3AbY7PIKI

Thankfully someone at Natural News decided helping spread an epidemic might cut into their revenues. They pulled the Homeopathic Ebola cure article from online.

Science Blogs did a very well written blog post on the Natural News insanity of a homeopathic Ebola treatment..Science Blogs great Natural News Ebola post


According to a New York times article by  Donald G McNeil from Aug 15, 2014 " Late this week, both the World Health Organization and the United States Food and Drug Administration issued strong warnings about false Ebola cures. The latter threatened American companies with penalties if they continue making such claims."   NY Times article

An alert from the FDA on August 14, 2014, states: “FDA has seen and received consumer complaints about a variety of products claiming to either prevent the Ebola virus or treat the infection. There are currently no FDA-approved vaccines or drugs to prevent or treat Ebola … There are no approved vaccines, drugs, or investigational products specifically for purchase on the Internet.” 

Web Med has put up an post about Beware Fake Ebola Treatments on the Internet..Web Med Ebola fake claims alert from FDA

 Medical Daily article on the FDA asking people to report companies making any and all fake claims of product curing EBOLA   FDA: Stay steer clear of any product with false EBOLA claims

The BBB ( Better Business Bureau ) is also warning people not to be get taken in fake Ebola cure claims . Quack Products Prey on Ebola Fears 


Martin Lane at Digital Journal Latest Ebola threat: Bogus treatments
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Sharron Hill at Doubtful News ( skeptic website ) has written a piece on  the Ebola outbreak and how  misinformation helps it spread Fear and Misinformation helping spread Ebola

Nigerian officials have had to issue a warning to pastors and faith healers to stop spreading false claims of curing sick people with Ebola.   No more false faith healing claims tied to EBOLA .warning form . Nigerian Govt  

According to Religion News.com  writer Frederick Nzwili   "In Liberia, more than 100 Christian leaders meeting in early August declared that God was angry and Ebola a plague. They called for prayers to seek God’s forgiveness for sins including corruption and immoral acts such as homosexuality."Ebola curse from God?

 Now .. a Mob  has destroyed the Ebola Center in Liberia just two days after it opened.. stealing the stuff in it that may be infected with the deadly Ebola virus and releasing people who were being held due to possible infection.. helping to possibly further spread the deadly virus that has so far killed over 1,000 people..
Liberian Mob helps destroy Ebola center and possibly spread Ebola even further

What is sad .. is that Ebola could  be the black plague of our time if it spreads massively  and despite all the education of some of our top scientists and minds .. it may be the lack of education at the bottom level of society and through society on a whole regarding illness, science and basic human biology that may cause it to spread much further endangering way more than a few thousand people..

Recent Video
New York Times Video..Village in African with 61 recent Ebola deaths
New York Times Video Using Technology to help cut down the spread of Ebola

Lets look at some information  on Ebola from the Centers for Disease Control ( CDC) 
"
The virus is spread through direct contact (through broken skin or mucous membranes) with
  • a sick person's blood or body fluids (urine, saliva, feces, vomit, and semen)
  • objects (such as needles) that have been contaminated with infected body fluids
  • infected animals
Healthcare workers and the family and friends in close contact with Ebola patients are at the highest risk of getting sick because they may come in contact with infected blood or body fluids.
During outbreaks of Ebola HF, the disease can spread quickly within healthcare settings (such as a clinic or hospital). Exposure to ebolaviruses can occur in healthcare settings where hospital staff are not wearing appropriate protective equipment, such as masks, gowns, and gloves.

Proper cleaning and disposal of instruments, such as needles and syringes, is also important. If instruments are not disposable, they must be sterilized before being used again. Without adequate sterilization of the instruments, virus transmission can continue and amplify an outbreak." Source  CDC

Also from the CDC
Signs/Symptoms of Ebola

"Symptoms of Ebola  typically include

  • Fever (greater than 38.6°C or 101.5°F)
  • Severe headache
  • Muscle pain
  • Weakness
  • Diarrhea
  • Vomiting
  • Abdominal (stomach) pain
  • Lack of appetite

Some patients may experience

  • Rash
  • Red eyes
  • Hiccups
  • Cough
  • Sore throat
  • Chest pain
  • Difficulty breathing
  • Difficulty swallowing
  • Unexplained bleeding inside and outside of the body
Symptoms may appear anywhere from 2 to 21 days after exposure to ebolavirus, although 8-10 days is most common."  Source CDC Ebola Symptoms

For those wanting to read about the CDC suggestions for hospital workers dealing with Ebola Infection Control for Viral Haemorrhagic Fevers in the African Health Care Setting


Update on  9/26/2014

Today I received  via Twitter  this : 
Quackery claimed to prevent /Treat Ebola By The Healing Frequency. com

I reported this article to the CDC, WHO and the FDA.

The article referenced above is the very thing that FDA , CDC and WHO are trying  to prevent slick  companies from doing .. spreading wrong misinformation  to sell products .. The making of claims not proven  regarding a product to be  effective in the prevention/  treatment  of Ebola ( a deadly highly contagious virus)  can kill not only those who fall for such claims.. it can impact others in society putting all of us at risk for the spread of disease that can Kill . This is the kind of snake oil salesmanship  that takes desperate people for huge amounts of money and endangers us all..


The World Health Organization states that w/ treatment  more people are surviving.. The fatality rate for Ebola in past outbreaks is listed  between 25-90 %
 WHO Fact Sheet Ebola virus disease

As with the other illnesses that people can delay treatment for when trying to self treat.. delay for treatment of Ebola can cause harm.. With Ebola that harm can mean the difference between life and death of not only you but everyone around you. .. But  with early treatment using medicine  survival rates increase..
 Refer:
 Early treatment of Ebola can help save lives
Us News Article .. There's No Ebola Cure, But Early Intensive Treatment Boosts Survival

Ebola is a potentially Lethal  HIGHLY contagious illness that should be treated by medical professionals and not with self treatment.

Due to the sudden increase in the number of people reading this blog post  this week..
I reached out to the James Randi Foundation to see if they might suggest to  me  any science based information to give any of you on the ineffectiveness of essential oils in any study to treat any illness.. They suggested: 

Oil of Oregano Science Based Study/ www.sciencebasedmedicine.org
An aromatherapist Vs. Scientist Blog. /http://scienceblogs.com
Essential oils: A perfect example of alternative medicine exaggeration / http://skeptoid.com


The FDA has started issuing formal warnings regarding false EBOLA claims to companies already:

CNN News..FDA warns companies about fake Ebola drugs
FDA statements on Ebola & Warnings to Three companies regarding false ebola claims
Doubtful News: FDA issues warning letters to companies marketing Ebola “cures”

Please everyone..
 if you see any company making bogus claims to treat or cure Ebola please contact the CDC and FDA to report that company ASAP.
We have the moral obligation to work together to protect the lives of our fellow human beings.

Saturday, August 9, 2014

Essential Oils dōTERRA Ebola ... Hay House CEO & Doreen Virtue's wrong medical info..

 dōTERRA & Hay House Publishing Company ... Two companies seeming reactions to endangerment tied to them.

Last weekend I came upon a post that seemed to claim that essential oils could cure Ebola virus..

One of my online friends had already come upon it & swung into action writing dōTERRA legal dept. to stop w/ all dangerous false medical claims that essential oils can in any way cure or treat Ebola.



She asked me if I would likewise write to  dōTERRA & ask them as she had  to pull the blog for the safety of all. Members of the skeptical community had started to pummel the blog post being up & someone at  www.essentialoilsforthewin.com  made it so that the public could not see the Ebola claims  but reps still could.

My friend wrote she emailed Hay House Publishing CEO Reid Tracy
( RTracy@HayHouse.com)  asking him for the misinformation that Hay House allowed to go out via Doreen Virtue on suicide at her Seattle 2012 event w/ John Holland be fixed in their public media outlets so that people would know the correct info on suicide .

CEO of Hay House does nothing after knowing of wrong suicide comment
This weekend we traded updates on our reply progress.~~

CEO Reid Tracy never replied to my friend who wrote him & has yet to take responsibility to correctthe statement by Doreen Virtue that "Those who talk of suicide do not do it . They just want attention. They need counseling. But they don't ever do it."  Nor has Hay House made any statements to the metaphysical consumers that they should go to medical doctors in regards to vaccinations instead of Doreen Virtue who makes anti-vaccine comments/posts and whom they claim hears angels.

To publically address that Doreen Virtue is not accurate & says some of the dumbest shit ever said tied to angels while claiming she can clearly see and hear people's guardian angels & that she has  absolutely no business practicing medicine is what is needed.

Yet, when new age angel crap brings in millions in profits for Hay House aka (Louise Hay and Reid Tracy) they find lots of rea$ons to make excuses to continue with the seemingly utter new age angel con game.

 Awhile back, I tried to bring it to the attn of Hay House & others in an email that is seemed that Dr. Brian Weiss is violating his medical ethics/oath in endorsing Virtue via  his shared product with her in light of her wrong medical statement on suicide and her telling people vaccine info in opposition to the AMA and CDC and her telling people stuff so whacked it might cause people to become atheists..

Hay House UK ad for Weiss/Virtue deck

Weiss so grateful to whore his ethics as psychiatrist for deck!!

In the Virtue/ Weiss Past Life deck that makes claims it will give us clues to the past lives we most likely have never had, we have a Columbia undergrad, Yale MD/Psychiatrist  endorsing a woman who tells us we might be incarnated Leprechauns.. No joke..

Doreen Virtue .. You might be an incarnated Magical being!

What ethical psychiatrist could encourage people toward this?

I questioned did Hay House & Dr Weiss want to be responsible for any & all dangerous notions Natural News might put out for in Hay House plugging Doreen Virtue as really hearing angels & her leading them to Natural News, consumers may take statements on Natural News as of the angels since they tell people Virtue really hears angels and people assume your guardian angel wouldn't give you wrong medical advice.



Now Mike Adams of Natural News is being investigated by the FBI .
Genetic Literacy Project.. FBI turns up the Heat on Mike Adams
Hay House CEO has not distanced Hay House from any posts Doreen Virtue or any of its authors have posted up plugging Natural News as any kind of reliable news source on medical anything.

Hay House .... NO PROGRESS despite their claims of being a spiritual publishing house.

But, what of dōTERRA ?   Did I get a response .  Yes
Did I or any others make any progress..  Maybe...
I wrote them asking them to reply to me & the JREF's Mr Grothe in their reply.

At first they wrote stating they needed a link to the story I was referencing .
I sent them the link that at that time could only be opened with password due to restrictions on the post that had not initially been there ...  http://www.essentialoilsforthewin.com/ebola/

 Why We Are Not Scared Of The Ebola Virus | Essential Oils ...www.essentialoilsforthewin.com/ebola/Aug 1, 2014 - Protected: Why We Are Not Scared Of The Ebola Virus. This content is password protected. To view it please enter your password below:.
 Now when you try to get anything tied to that link you get:
Uh-oh, something went wrong! Error Code: 404  I see that as Progress .
Having wrong medical info out to reps is still wrong medical info going out.

The co rep from dōTERRA legal compliance dept wrote me that the links w/ the Ebola claims were not affiliated with dōTERRA company & they were doing an investigation. Very good.

I  had shared  with dōTERRA a  Facebook connect by  Skeptical Medicine regarding the seemingly  dōTERRA post no longers accessible to the general public:

How much wrong can you find in this statement? :
"The reason doctors can't do anything for viruses is because viruses live inside of your cell's walls, and medicine particles can't penetrate those walls. Essential oils, however, have super ...tiny particles and a makeup that allows them to pass through with no problem! They go in, kill the virus while also stopping the viral cells from duplicating, and all the while boost the immune system so the body can continue to fight for itself. We've found that we can kill viral infections in 12-48 hours, depending on how quickly we start using oils."
 


I've  written & asked dōTERRA legal compliance to next look at this highly upsetting claim/post  .
Road Rash treatment of a child with Essential Oils instead of real medicine..
 Seeing  the photos in the story I fear what if a parent  seeing this type of injury on a child and hearing essential oils fixed it all turn around and delays treatment of their own child's injuries & uses essential oils to  try to heal the child  instead of taking them to a medical doctor.

I use essential oils for relaxation & enjoyment.   I DO NOT use them as curative medicine nor do I tell people they cure anything. I've quite the collection of essential oils.  Though they can be pricey , they seem worth it to me. But, there is no evidence that though nice smelling that any of my essential oils can cure anything!



Anyone wanting to write dōTERRA :

compliance@doterra.com



RTracy@HayHouse.com 

Things to write  Reid Tracy the CEO of Hay House about:

Why it's wrong to leave wrong suicide info in play & wrong for Hay House Publishing and medium John Holland  not to have immediately have stopped the event when Doreen Virtue gave out wrong suicide info and to have fixed the wrong statement right then and there .

 Why Hay House needs to make a public commitment to calling out all dangerous and false medical claims by any and all of their speakers and put life before new age profit..

Will  Reid Tracy as the CEO of Hay House take on full & complete liability for any and all  harm done to any consumer who having heard or seen Virtue posts & statements encouraging people not to get flu shots in the name of the angels fail to vaccinate themselves or their loved one for the flu?

As of 10/4/2014 Doreen Virtue's posts listed below are still up..
Dr. Brian Weiss did not demand they be taken down for the safety of new age consumers .Thus we have a Yale Psychiatrist MD endorsing a woman telling people not to get flu shots as angel message.. right?

New age consumers will assume Dr. Brian Weiss would not have endorsed Virtue w/ her having any points of endangerment & that if he found any that he would demand they be fixed BEFORE their deck came out since DR Weiss took a medical oath.

 Note.. Weiss's medical oath supersedes any contract he may make or will make for new age profit.. (Not that any contract that risks human life is enforceable under the law) . Even if he only realized how nuts it was to endorse Virtue when I contacted him over 18 months ago to let him know of her wrong SUICIDE COMMENTS  it does not excuse him from lack of right action.

Doreen Virtue angel message in Australia not to get flu shots

Doreen Virtue elderberry post encouraging people to see flu shots as bad using Natural News article

Video natural flu shot consumer learned how to make via Doreen Virtue's facebook post

Knowledge of illness creates illness? Doreen Virtue

Doreen Virtue while claiming she can clearly see and hear angels posts on Facebook her guidance and research says no to flu shots

Maybe ask  Hay House .. How if we can't buy spiritual gifts how has Hay House been sponsoring/ profiting on this the seeming sale of spiritual gifts via Virtue's classes & cruises for decades where she has been certifying people on spiritual gifts from angel intuitive to angel therapist ( Check out  her mediumship class @ angel University where she plugs mediumship to any for only $400 via DVD with certification .. . Despite Hay House authors/mediums James Van Praagh  & John Holland clearly stating everyone is NOT a medium nor can they be ...How can either of these mediums knowing Virtue is plugging for sale a product to make anyone a medium.. something that they by their own teachings say is not possible since they say all are not mediums... How can they ethically endorse anything about her since she would be by their teachings be engaged upon material and spiritual fraud if she can not make everyone a medium . So how do we have them selling out mediumship itself  for their gain and possibly their own fans expense since they drive their fans to her! )

Or maybe bring up to Hay House why their  telling people via Doreen Virtue's books/videos/events that Hay House publishes or is in any way tied to that people may be special in that they may  incarnated magical beings such as mermaids, star people, angels and leprechauns and not human beings ... is absolutely wrong & possibly harming people's mental health. It's cruel to do this to vulnerable people.  DR Brian Weiss as a psychiatrist in endorsing such whacked stuff seems to be fully selling out .For the point of a psychiatrist is to bring people from irrational concepts to more rational ones.. not the reverse..

Hay House is also the publishing Co of Esther Hicks who seemingly in this video below tells us all that medicine is just a dog and pony show working only on belief ..
.Medicine what is it.. Vibrational healing By Esther Hicks..

 Hicks' husband  died from cancer despite Hicks spirit claims via her spirit Abraham that via the power of thought you can cure yourself of any illness.. How Hay House continues to sell Hick's stuff as real when the death of her own husband proves her stuff false.. I can not understand. That medium James Van Praagh who is alive today partially thanks to life saving surgery plugs Esther Hicks when she seemingly says medicine only works on belief & is a dog and pony show seems to clearly indicate to me his level of unethical behavior in endorsement.

One would think that Van praagh existing still .. due to real MEDICINE & surgery that worked not due to his belief but because it was based on real medicine... in gratitude alone might  find it highly uncomfortable to  risk that anyone might see him plugging Hicks &  think her statements on medicine true & then make significant health choices that could cause harm in real medicine delay or denial.  But still he leads people to Hicks.. It floors my mind.

This could cause a fully believing consumer to possibly delay surgery or the taking of real medicine thinking if it works only one belief why not try water therapy, essential oils or Reiki instead of medicine. No one wants to go in for major surgery. If I believe that its only belief that makes medicine or surgery work, why not drink a glass of water that I've blessed & have it substitute for a prescribed medicine or heart surgery ? Why not. because it would be insane & is not based on  reality. 

If Hick's crap was true, I could believe a Twinkie could cure cancer &  have it work right?
If it would be unethical for me to tell people Twinkies cure cancer then how is ethical for Hicks to tell people medicine works only on belief?  

Knowingly derailing others or allowing others to be misdirected from timely correct life saving medicine /psychiatric care is medical endangerment.

Vaccinations are a life saving preventative medicine that protects more than just those who are vaccinated but also those who due to illness can not get vaccinated themselves.. Note but even with vaccinations there are some who do come down with the illnesses we vaccinate for. Yet, just because vaccinations are not 100 % does not mean its a great idea to skip them.

Funeral 11 yr. old .. Flu complications.
11 Year old dead from swine flu 2014.
Even w/ flu shots, some can still get flu at times.. 5 yr. old child flu death Portland..
Even w/ flu shots , people can at times get flu.. Newer anti-viral medicine
Flu related deaths start again in Fall 2014.
North Carolina Flu death 2014-2015


Knowingly leaving wrong suicide/medical info in play is wrong & makes one liable morally for the entire ripple of any help not given for as long as wrong medical info is left in play. There is no excuse to risk other people's lives to hide psychic fraud no matter the level of profit to be made by doing so.  Encouraging people to ridiculous notions of their not being human beings but magical beings at the expense of their embracing their humanity, in order to sell them products is pathetic.

 RTracy@HayHouse.com



 9/26/2014
I received via Twitter  this article: 
Quackery claimed to prevent /Treat Ebola By The Healing Frequency. com
I reported this article to the CDC, WHO and the FDA.

The article above is the very thing that the  FDA , CDC and WHO are trying to prevent...
slick people/ companies from spreading wrong misinformation to sell products.

The making of claims not proven regarding a product to be effective in the prevention/ treatment of Ebola ( a deadly highly contagious virus) can kill not only those who fall for such claims, it can also impact others in society putting all of us at risk for the spread of disease that can Kill. This is the kind of snake oil salesmanship that takes desperate people for huge amounts of money & endangers us all..

The World Health Organization states w/ treatment  more people are surviving..
The fatality rate for Ebola in past outbreaks is listed between 25-90 % . Any person suspecting they may be infected with Ebola has the moral obligation to see professional help ASAP so as to decrease the spread of the illness to others. 
 WHO Fact Sheet Ebola virus disease

As w/ other illnesses that people can delay treatment for when trying to self treat..
delay for treatment of Ebola can cause harm.

With Ebola that harm can mean the difference between life& death of not only you... but everyone around you. Yet w/ early treatment using medicine survival rates increase..

 Early treatment of Ebola can help save lives
Us News Article .. There's No Ebola Cure, But Early Intensive Treatment Boosts Survival

Due to the sudden increase in the number of people reading this blog ..
I reached out to the James Randi Educational Foundation to see if they might suggest any science based info to present on the ineffectiveness of essential oils to treat any illness so that anyone thinking essential oils might at all prevent them from getting Ebola.. will not fall to wasting tons of money to in the end probably only smell good..
....JREF suggested: 

Oil of Oregano Science Based Study/ www.sciencebasedmedicine.org
An aromatherapist Vs. Scientist Blog. /http://scienceblogs.com
Essential oils: A perfect example of alternative medicine exaggeration / http://skeptoid.com

The FDA has started issuing formal warnings regarding false EBOLA claims to companies already:
CNN News..FDA warns companies about fake Ebola drugs


Warning Letter From the FDA to dōTERRA International, LLC :
FDA EnforcementActions WarningLetter to dōTERRA International, LLC

Warning Letter From the FDA to Young Living:
FDA Enforcement Action Warning Letter to Young Living

Warning Letter From the FDA to Natural Solutions Foundation  aka Rima Laibow
FDA Enforcement Action Warning Letter to Rima Laibow

10/4/2014
Thanks to Facebook Page : Skeptical Medicine.. 
Facebook Skeptical Medicine..

dōTERRA’s marketing of essential oils.. Science Based Medicine
Aromatherapy (essential oils).. Skeptic's Dictionary
What’s That I Smell? The Claims of Aromatherapy
Aromatherapy: Does It Pass the Smell Test?

10/5/2014

NPR Blog No, Seriously, How Contagious is Ebola?

Article talking about the dangers of some essential oils when consumed or put on the skin.
MD answers a Mom's questions on safety of consuming essential Oils by Roy Benaroch, MD

Are Young Living &  DoTERRA’s Essential Oils Adulterated?
Deposition in Utah Dr. Robert Pappas says that Young Living Essential Oils passed off synthetic oils as authentic for jasmine & birch oils that were instead synthetic oils. By Arvid Keeson /Utah Stories

Amazing Hub Page by Lee Tea questions :Why Are All the Articles that Suggest Ingesting Essential Oils is Safe Written by Young Living Sales Reps?


10/8/2014

Today I learned that the local hospital has agreed to treat Ebola patients. For any pondering does this mean I'm rushing out to buy essential oils, colloidal silver, a frequency zapper, or any odd herbal anything.. the answer is NO.    Harborview Hospital Volunteers to Take Ebola patients.


10/16/2014
Fox News reporter encourages people to NOT fall to mega fear at this point in the US.
If you do not show symptoms they say you are NOT contagious..
Shep tells us we do not have an outbreak of Ebola in the US at this time.. 
But last year he says flu & resulting pneumonia infections killed 52,000 Americans. I myself had no idea the number of flu related deaths was that high..

Shep Smith of Fox News update on Ebola..

10/17/2014

Conspiracy Theory...Reflection of latest conspiracy theory on Ebola to cross a skeptic's path
Science Blogs... How “they” view “us,” Ebola edition

Responsible steps:
The American Herbal Products Association,
Consumer Healthcare Products Association,
Council for Responsible Nutrition,
The Natural Products Association,
United Natural Products Alliance call to marketers/retailors to refuse to sell products making false claims to cure or treat Ebola !
Call for sanity by some Natural supplements groups regarding products claiming to treat Ebola


10/18/2014

What should we do now.. Ebola by Epidemiologist Larry Brilliant

Please if you see any company making bogus claims to treat or cure Ebola please contact the CDC and FDA to report that company ASAP.

 We have the moral obligation to work together to protect the lives of our fellow human beings.

Sunday, July 20, 2014

Notice of Attorney General complaint filed in Seattle against Hay House Publishing.


Notice who knew when..  How MD Brian Weiss went forward endorsing Virtue  via their up coming deck .knowing this.  Look at the dates people..


To: belcrc@atg.wa.gov; mshermer@skeptic.com; rtracy@hayhouse.com; info@johnholland.com
CC: customerservice@dougallfraser.com; soniachoquette@me.com; info@suzanenorthrop.com; workshop@brianweiss.com
Subject: RE: 423736 : A notice from the Washington State Attorney General's Office
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 04:39:06 +0000


Dear Bob,

Thank you so much for your reply.

Is there a proper place I should submit my complaint to ensure that the fraudulent psychic conduct that led into medical endangerment does not happen again? If your office is not the place to go - where should I go?

 If someone does get harmed or killed will any attorney representing the harmed parties be able to access my complaint so that there is written data -date & time stamped document to be able to be presented in any civil case against Hay House & Doreen Virtue to prove pattern of harmful conduct & dispersion of false medical information ? If someone gets harmed I want to be sure the court awards a judgement that will reflect the real degree of greed and neglience on the part of Hay House & Doreen Virtue.  I filed compaint with CA Attorney general as well and am waiting to hear back.

I care very deeply about the issue of people receiving correct medical info and that people not be told false information that can hurt them while being told angels are approving of bogus bullshit .No one should ever be told false information that can impede medical help being given in a timely fashion due to psychic fraud - esp by person who claims psychological degrees.

 We need the laws changed in our state. This co 's representative's 1st response when I asked about whether they not concerned about liability of Virtue harming people with her shit if someone didn't help someone who was suicidal in time due to her false statements on suicide - - was- ooh she's a contractor-- We aren't liable. They should've stopped the presentation right when Virtue said the false information on suicide and corrected it - if they really cared about people. No angel of God would be quiet with this woman telling people such bullshit and telling them to pray to angels instead of God.

Their own CEO as confirmed that the speakers are not supposed to diagnose or treat medical conditions & that Virtue's actions went against policy. Yet , despite their policy they have no plan in place to stop any talk where speakers violate the rules even if it could cause harm to another's life.. Metaphysical consumers are a vulernable group that are inclined to check reason at the door - they hear false medical info from mouth of some woman claiming angels are talking to her and - who knows  the final ripple if they apply it.  To this day Hay House  has done absolutely nothing to correct Ms Virtue's false information on suicide & in this they affirm their greed at the possible expense of  human life.

I want to do all I can to ensure what  I saw doesn't happen again.  Tell me where to go - and I shall file whatever.
I want suicidal people & their loved ones  to receive the message to seek immediate medical help without delay or sense of guilt because life matters and because it is spiritual & logical to seek  help when one needs it. No one should be teaching talk of suicide isn't real and claiming  they can see & hear everyone's guardian angel while they spread such false info. I want people to  feel more comfortable to ask for  help when needed- I am for less suicides & less fraudulent" angel" bullshit.  I affirm life & truth matters.
 
 
Desiree Krautkramer
 
 
 
Mr. Shermer ~Do you  dream of being certified as an angel therapist or  as a medum?  http://www.angeltherapy.com/events.php  . Virtue has no requirement of pre-existing psychic gift!  It would probably be a spiritual fantasy of any light worker to save a low vibration atheist. Now Virtue  says people who eat meat or chocolate and drink alcohol and coffee are lowering their vibration and can't reach total enlightenment - so I am not too sure what total enlightenment may mean -it just may just  mean your pockets will be much lighter after paying her very high fees.  Her angels missed Jesus's miracles tied to  Wine & Fish  &   Edgar Cayce &  Torah too .  Her angels don't know about first nation peoples who love to hunt & are psychic nor  do her angels seem aware of the Soviet psy testing among meat eating alcohol drinking psychics.  Her angels seem to not know of or have missed all of Ireland obviously ! Along with  missing noting  Medium Van Praagh eats meat - drinks coffee &  alcohol and  enjoying chocolate all while getting actual psychic hits which she fails to get.  If you take Virtue's class - she might explain. I  know she will be so thrilled if I can help manifest you becoming her student !  
 
 Van Praagh calling  Virtue true-means he must become  vegan - never drink coffee/alcohol again nor eat chocolate.  Every cup of coffee is clear statement of his non-belief in Ms Virtue. Mr Holland must never have another beer with his buds if he is going to work w/ Virtue. They must follow her every directive.  If it is truth ~~they must follow it!  They must walk her talk or stop selling this bogus bullshit.
 
Going to practice my affirmation. .I manifest people thinking about the shit they endorse - publish - sell or persons they  work with in light of true spirtuality. 

From: BelCRC@atg.wa.gov
To: notyet03@hotmail.com
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:06:37 -0800
Subject: 423736 : A notice from the Washington State Attorney General's Office


Bob Ferguson
ATTORNEY GENERAL OF WASHINGTON
Consumer Protection Division
103 East Holly Street, Suite 308 Bellingham, WA 98225-4310 (360) 738-6187


January 18, 2013


Desiree Krautkramer
4700 12th Ave NE Apt 506
Seattle, WA 98105


RE:   Hay House Publishing
File #:   423736

Dear Desiree Krautkramer:

Our office received your correspondence regarding Hay House Publishing.
  
The Attorney General’s Office is authorized only to represent certain public officials and agencies. Information about our office can be found on our website at this link: http://atg.wa.gov/WhatTheOfficeDoes.aspx

The Washington State Attorney General’s Office values the important information it receives from consumers like you. We will retain the information you submitted as part of our public record.

Thank you for contacting our office.
RUTH E. HOLBROOK
Program Specialist 3
Consumer Protection Division
(360) 738-6188
Fax: (360) 738-6190
belcrc@atg.wa.gov



Complaint with King County ( in WA state) Dept of Health at suggestion of Attorney General & a medical doctor who I know in my life.

From: David.Fleming@kingcounty.gov
To: notyet03@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Fraudulent Psychic event and false suicide information given out at Hay House event by Doreen Virtue
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 00:18:29 +0000

Thanks, Mary, for this note. I have forwarded it to our behavioral health folks here at the County so they can be aware of the situation. We may be limited in actions we can take.



From: Mary-Desiree Kramer [mailto:notyet03@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 07:03 PM Pacific Standard Time
To: Fleming, David
Cc: info@johnholland.com <info@johnholland.com>
Subject: Fraudulent Psychic event and false suicide information given out at Hay House event by Doreen Virtue
Dr. Fleming,

I am writing to file formal complaint with the dept of Health at the suggestion of the Attorney General's office and at the suggestion of practicing medical MD I spoke with about the situation.

On Sept 22,2012 in the City of Seattle at the Angels and Afterlife event speakers Medium John Holland and alledged angel medium Doreen Virtue presented and  I observed seeming blatant psychic fraud leading to potential endangerment of suicidal persons by Ms Virtue. Ms Virtue had a question passed to her by medium John Holland regarding situation where single mother of suicidal 20 1/2 yr old black male asked why her son was becoming suicidal and shared with us that her son had written a letter to her that had he had read to her in which he confessed to repeated thoughts of killing himself and almost taking action several times in the prior weeks but each time a friend just happened to call so he changed course.

Mr. Holland passed the question to Ms. Virtue telling us all that Ms. Virtue had doctorate degree in clinical psychology and clinical psychology experience. He stated she had two doctorate degrees.  He stated to us all that she was best qualified to answer the question. The mother had specifically asked for his insight. The mother  thought wisely that of the two Mr. Holland was the real medium and might be able to get true insight into the situation.  Holland during his psychic readings nailed them.

Ms. Virtue was so horrible at "reading" people  that some left  during the event while she was talking.  She was observed seemingly in blatant "fishing" technique where she was unable to get any kind of hit on the people she was reading and did actively engage them to try to get them to tell her what she then reworded and repeated back to them. I have never seen it done to such horrific levels before. One old woman stormed out almost running into me on my way to the bathroom declaring" The Bitch is a total fraud." She asked me could I not see the woman was not getting anything on anyone and person after person was telling her no over and over and that she was trying to make it fit when it wasn't. I confirmed for the very pissed off old woman yes that I was observing the same thing as she was regarding Ms. Virtue. I tried to get the old lady to see that at least Mr Holland was a real medium but the old woman could have cared less she wanted the angel medium to be real.

But Ms Virtue's bogus psychic game crossed the line into endangerment with her imparting false information on suicide while claiming:
A) To see and communicate with all of our angels in the room  ( over 700  people present)
B) To claim gift of mediumship
C) Claim of being Doctorate level clinical psychologist.

Dr. Fleming in front of 700 people Ms. Virtue did tell this mother of suicidal young son that " Those who talk of suicide do not do it. They just want attn. They need counseling, But they don't ever do it!"

The mother at this point had already told us that her son had written a letter he had read his mother confessing that he had repeated thoughts of suicide he almost engaged in completing except for the young man's friends by fluke of miracle of God happening to have called just when the young man was going to end it all. Ms. Virtue went on and asked the mother was there any drug use involved and the mom said no. She pressed no alcohol or pot. The mom said maybe some pot and then Virtue in front of us all declared that was the issue the low vibration pot! 

Next Ms. Virtue went on to offer the woman help. Help came in the form of a book given for free to this mother that Ms Virtue had written on the Mother Mary and it was passed to the woman with the declaration that Mary is the Queen of Heaven and she and her angels could help with this that this book if placed even UNREAD on the nightstand would help heal the energy of the home and the situation..

At no time did Hay House staff or John Holland stand to correct this blatant misinformation on suicide or the use of family tragedy/medical illness to be used to plug a product that could not do what it was claimed to.  Ms. Virtue's statements on healing properties of her book unread  constitute a healing claim that is untrue and  is a pure snake oil.

I went immediately to speak to the Mother of the suicidal boy. I did the best I could using my gifts as an intuitive and as a person holding a BS degree in Justice and Law Admin with concentration in Correctional Counseling with a minor in Psychology.  I have family and personal history with suicide tendency - my family has lost 2 persons to suicide - and I have worked as volunteer at one point in my life  on teen suicide prevention line.

The woman with the suicidal son was confused why I was even there for as she said the two famous mediums had entirely blown off any risk to her son's life!  I sat there doing my best to let anything and everything of my gift, training and life experience come through to stand against the fraudulent info on suicide and to encourage this mother to take action now! The older brother also had history of suicidal tendency. So this mother has had 2 of 3 sons become suicidal around the late teens early twenties. Their  father is of intense mood and that is why there is broken home. Family depression of suicidal level is medical & spiritual condition not caused by a little weed except to bogus  gurus making shit up as they go.

 I ask the health dept  to please stop Ms Virtue from making claims of Mary Mother book healing energy tied to suicidal tendency or any medical condition and  in making statements that could lead suicidal persons from not receiving help then need asap when she says those who talk of it NEVER do it! I ask the health dept to hold Hay House CEO Reid Tracey accountable for what goes on under the Hay House name. 

Melissa ,a Hay House employee who was present that  day , that she clearly saw that Ms Virtue was "entirely off in all her reading of all the people she read" and she stated she was shocked Ms Virtue "even attempted to read anyone." I was informed Ms. rarely reads anyone anymore.  I asked Melissa about the suicide comment she confirmed she had heard it clear as I had but she said " I only took it as dangerous if taken literally. It would be dangerous if taken literally." When I asked Melissa why if she thought there might be any harm why she did not stand to say this is wrong she said to me she was pretty sure had she done so had she thought it concrete risk  that she would have been fired on the spot.

Hay House CEO when I contacted him did state if I had the email of the mother he would personally write her and encourage her like I did to seek immediate medical attn. for her son. I have not the email of the mom at this point.

I can not say ethically that the CEO has offered to do nothing since if I had the email he would have written the mother to correct Ms Virtue's false info  but Mr. Fleming he did nothing to correct the false information that went out to 700 people who may not now get help for their suicidal loves ones or friends.  He has left 700 Seattle people hearing bullshit .That mother of the 20 yr old may or may not believe me that she should take the risk as real  of her son committing suicide if he keeps having repeated thoughts of it --all because Hay House CEO  & Louise Hay herself are comfortable putting  a seemingly completely incompetent fraud on the stage to milk believing souls seeking answers for millions in profits each year. There is not a thing spiritual about that.

Virtue clearly did not follow APA standards or Spiritualist standards or Christian standards in her answer to the mother of the suicidal son. From what I could try to evaluate with only limited info from the mother the son has 5 of 9 risk factors for teen suicide not including having a close bloodline relative of suicidal tendency or history. A little weed didn't make this kid suicidal..

Claiming the psychological degree at DOCTORATE level and failing to follow the truth of psychology made Virtue's statement seem like it is medical truth when it was is untrue.  Virtue if you read her books or hear her presentations has a history of making stuff up that makes little to no sense and not being held accountable by those in the metaphysical community. Whether its telling people to warn fairies off the grass before mowing so as not to kill them or of unicorns. I have never heard a of a story of an angel of God leading anyone to 5 marriages and 4 divorces. But even if you listen to Virtue she won't tell you about that aspect of  her life as she  tries to make it seem like she has one divorce..

Hay House stands to make millions on the Virtue angel crap between the cards, books, angel classes, angel therapy practioner classes, apps for iphone , calendars, and such and cares so little for human life that though Ms. Virtue clearly violated their rules about imparting of medical information, they did nothing to stop her from doing so. Stopping the angel medium from imparting dangerous medical info and claiming fraudulent healing claims on book she wrote would clearly show the woman is an utter fraud . The money is huge in Hay House continuing this fraudulent route and if no one takes this stand who cares little for the cost to their psychic career it won't change until someone dies!

 I've had a fellow medium from Van Praagh Mastering Mediumship class encourage me to not report the fraud, writing  that I should see Mr Holland's conduct as an example for me if I want psychic fame. I was told that psychics run in circles and that you don't out the fraud in your circle. I was told it's not right but its how it goes . I was told to play the game so that I too can have psychic fame as Mr. Holland. I am hearing Desiree you can't call attn. to the fraud it will affect our ability to make money. Mr Holland though a real medium - is no different than some cop or priest of good conduct  who see physical abuse or sexual abuse around and will not take a stand to stop it due to personal profit  thinking well I don't engage in it so its not my obligation to take the stand. Its wrong when priest turn away from reporting other priests who do wrong things. Its wrong when cops don't stop bad cops from hurting others & its wrong when highly gifted medium lets another whether real or fake give out bogus bullshit while they say nothing to stop it.  Human life matters.

 There are no incompetent angels .. but  there is angel fraud.

 Will you see what can be done under the law in this case.
I have waited months and done all I can to see if I talked Hay House and Holland would they step up to correct their psychic fraud problem and they have done nothing that I am aware and so it will probably happen again if not in our state in another. I have been unable to get solid commitment from Hay House CEO that he would guarantee this would never again happen.  I must morally press forward till I am sure no soul will be hurt in this fraudulent bullshit.

Mary- Desiree Krautkramer
Seattle WA

 

Reid Tracy's Reply to my letter complaining about Mom of suicidal child being told wrong info on suicide by "angel medium" Doreen Virtue..

From: RTracy@HayHouse.com
To: notyet03@hotmail.com
CC: info@johnholland.com
Subject: RE: Sept 22nd 2012 Seattle event - request for action
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 16:28:04 +0000


Hi Mary,

I have passed your letter on to Doreen Virtue. I am sorry you were so offended by Doreen’s speech and readings at her and John’s lecture in Seattle.

We at Hay House of course care about all of the audience members and don’t want any harm done at our seminars. It is important for all audience members to consult with their physicians regarding  sensitive topics such as suicide and if you give me the person’s name who Doreen addressed at the seminar I will send her an email asking her to see her physician to get the proper help for her son.


Reid Tracy
President
Hay House, Inc
PO Box 5100
Carlsbad,CA 92018
(760) 431-7695 x 114

(760)603-1736 direct fax

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