Dear Mr Randi, Shermer and Grothe & the skeptical community...
Writing with resignation to ask you to please step up your efforts to call out new age bullshit but from a whole new angle..
In 2 mo. will be the 2 yr anniversary of my watching Hay House author/"angel medium" Doreen Virtue give out wrong suicide info to the mother of a suicidal black man having repeated thoughts of killing himself.
A Mom who was told by Virtue that those who talk of suicide do not do it. They just want attention. They need counseling but they don't EVER do it... No one present that day called that crap out.. and no one since has done anything to make sure the right information on suicide is imparted to all who were present.
Doreen Virtue since that event went on to make anti-vaccine statements/posts that at one time included one encouraging a mom toward seemingly full non-vaccination of children ( that thankfully has been taken down) but Virtue still has up posts that encourage people to see elderberries as safe and of angels and flu shots as not good .. Using Natural News as back up..
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I believe in God. I believe in spiritual gifts .
I have no belief in the game they are running at Hay House taking new age consumers... even endangering them in false medical info while no one calls it out putting money before life.
Even though I have written the Hay House CEO & John Holland over and over to the point I probably have a nagging to try save life merit badge waiting for me in Heaven... they do nothing to fix wrong medical information that could kill the very consumers they say they want to serve.
I want to challenge all of you.. before TAM 2015...
Crank up the voice of the skeptical movement to call out not only Doreen Virtue imparting wrong suicide info in the name of angels and her seemingly encouraging people away from vaccines and ADHD medication ...but to call them all out on doing nothing while they have all seen the bullshit.
Call people to thought..
not as atheists if they choose not to be such but to thought within their own spiritual traditions.
Call new age gurus to responsibility for all that they say.. all that they write.. everyone whom they work with on a stage or at events .. all they endorse to their fans verbally or online or whose products they plug.
My belief is ..We are body mind, heart, and soul..
We were never meant to leave the mind behind.
The new age wants & depends on us to check our minds at the door... How is a God who created a world with physics, biology, chemistry, math etc glorified in stupidity? How can their being quiet while one or any of their own endanger in the new age ? Is this not be a marker that none of them is of God that none calls out that which could harm any other.
To me it seems a Hay House/New age culture of non-thought, non-commitment to truth, non-accountability that is money fame & ego driven honors nothing of God.. It honors taking people for their money and nothing else.
I watched life risked in psychic fraud... It's not just silliness to choose to believe in or not believe in when they risk lives. Even with online posts that could harm their intertwined fans.. no famous psychic or medium calls Doreen Virtue out for encouraging people from flu shots.
They who know of her posts on vaccines and who say nothing risk peoples lives to flu in the name of angels and Natural News.. Just as those who know of her suicide statement and do not call it out risk peoples lives to suicide..
And, people wonder why I am so cranky about the lack of ethics in mediumship and why I no longer believe it's anyone talking to my dead people in Heaven or anyone else's ..
I know my dead people would say its wrong to risk people's lives in bullshit..
I can picture one of my dead people saying what the fuck are those frauds doing in our name... Don't talk to the predators honey - What did we teach you.. what values did we teach.. remember who we are and live it...
I write to beg skeptics to open your hearts .. to start a more diverse dialogue that can be heard and understood with those who believe in God and spiritual gifts to take a closure look at what is happening around them in the new age and to think clearly about the topic of why psychic accuracy actually matters......
When always the angle of skeptical material is the atheist angle it sets up intuitive new age people to not hear what you may say that may be useful even for the believer in God when faced with psychic claims by others..
And, it isolates skeptics from others of non-atheist inclination who might be allies in calling out the crap that takes other faiths' symbols & concepts and re-spins them into new age marketing tools.
I am sure if you had a talk about why it's not of God for some person to say the shit Doreen does on angels you could get a ton of priests to step up to talk about it if you gave them a place or show to talk about why what she does and says is not of Christianity .
Mr. Michael Shermer will you please think of re-evaluating your cold, warm and hot reading categories.. So, that you may be more effective & possibly be of greater service to everyone. .
If I were to say to a man wanting to date me ..
I will date you.... but first... you have to prove you are good man in my test. . I shall evaluate your actions and words in the following categories.
A ) Cold ....You are an asshole.
B ) Warm ...You are really an asshole.
C ) Hot .. .You are definitely an asshole.
I suspect any man seeing my categories might call foul... with no categories of ... He might not be an asshole or He might be a good guy or He is a good guy. . He might validly think I was being a bitch and didn't really want to ever let a man be shown to be anything other than an asshole.
Mr Shermer though I believe in psychic abilities .. I've seen ton of fraud ( though never so clear, stupid,and dangerous as what I saw tied to Doreen Virtue) . No one in the new age community talks about the fraud . And there seems to be this odd concept of well if people want to believe in Bull why tell them otherwise .. if it makes them happy why call it out... If they were really serving spirit would they not call out the crap they know is crap? They twine the bull so into the whole mechanism it makes it impossible to believe any are of God.For in the twine none can afford to call any of it out since they all plug one another like a huge spinning money making chakra.
Though I evaluate psychics differently than you do & I perceive psychic abilities as real..
I want to say Mr. Shermer some of what I have seen in your videos is good stuff & the topic of being able to properly evaluate accuracy becomes important when we have Internationally known Hay House medium author who Hay House introduces at events as really seeing our guardian angels telling people wrong suicide info and not to get flu shots ..Mr Shermer no one stops the dangerous shit - it makes your work so much more important.. It does ..
I didn't watch your materials Mr Shermer before the Doreen Virtue crap. I came upon them due to a UK skeptic challenging me to view them. I had heard of you but did not watch your stuff because you come from the clearly stated perspective that nothing intuitive or psychic can be real . So why would I watch them..Knowing some is real. Maybe make videos for those who believe some of it is? So that your reach to protect will be greater.
There are only the two vocal camps presented to the public:
those who seem to present its all real.. ( Chopra )
against those who say none of it is real.. ( Militant Atheists)
The ones hurt most by this are intuitives who hearing a guru profess to have experienced what they experience within their own lives can fall into the whole .. the they are like me concept and if some of it is true..... it must all be true..
While Deepak Chopra calls out to the press like some over puffed puffer fish crying loudly .. look at me challenging devout atheists who believe in nothing you do.. I the Chopra .. I shall stand for spirit as being real ...
While we know the very real reality that while he puffs up like a self proclaimed new age saint Chopra refused to address the fraud that could kill tied to him via Doreen Virtue and James Van Praagh.. Where did his medical ethics go to protect life... Does he think leaving wrong suicide info in play is ethical> He never calls out the bad shit.. He never calls out the stupid shit that makes no sense.. He uses the very real reality that the skeptics tend to be a mostly atheist group against you .. though some of what you say is very real and really needs to be talked about..
Mr Shermer could you please think of adding new categories to your evaluations of psychics. Curretnly you do not even seem to have categories of "possible hit" and" hit" and this could be used against all that you might say...to intuitives.
Come join the deeper waters of conversation of being able to say okay I think I saw 6 hits out of 70 and what does that mean everyone.. How far off were the misses..
How wide were the " sort of hits".. Was the psychic so wide in the statement that you could fit the state of Texas and Chris Christie into the statement?
I promise going deeper into the waters will not make star fish out of sharks..
Please make more videos showing non-sophisticated people how some information can be picked up via sight & applying general human understanding and generalizations of people.. Don't just say its cold reading - show us .. talk it out... have a fake reader explain how he or she got what they did...
Also videos on the top psychic cons people are getting taken in ( IE You are cursed you need to give me all your high end jewelry & cash on hand to bless in order to break the curse .. and then the person saying this runs off with it all etc) - how do these scams run & what people should do when they see one being done... I encourage you to crank up prevention efforts...
As a Catholic..I do no support Atheists in the denial of God or spiritual gifts - but I fully support educating people to think about all that surrounds them so they do not get KILLED by STUPID shit in the name of their own dead people & guardian angels .
Skeptics ... You are all there is to protect new age consumers from someone giving wrong medical info in the name of angels..or other psychic work .. because those who profess to having spiritual gifts and to serving spirit when seeing wrong stuff done ....do not call it out..
Upon any examination of Doreen Virtue's " work" you can see the stupid almost literally dripping from it .. By coming only from atheist perspective Skeptics . you could not bring up the very clear markers of bull that if pointed out to Christians ...clearly would have made them say oh shit how can Doreen Virtue be real if they believe what they have been taught of angels ..
Doreen Virtue who Hay House professes to be an angel expert ..
Doreen Virtue I can do it.. Hay House wants you & I to call on Archangel Michael for protection.against negative energy . She even has deck with him on it..
Archangel Michael is known for winning the battle over Lucifer in the fight over who would run Heaven when Lucifer they claim tried to take over. Michael who was once the 2nd most glorious angel in heaven rose to the top in obedience to God..according to the Bible and Christian tradition.. Michael rose against the devil/ the highest demon himself and won. So lets take a look at what Doreen Virtue says about demons.. since she has a deck plugging the archangel who defeated Satan himself...
Reference Doreen's own angel therapy website...
"As a clairvoyant, Doreen can see the spirit world in great
detail. She says, "There are beings that are referred to as ‘fallen
angels.’ In reality, they aren’t angels at all. Angels are glowing
beings, filled with the inner radiance of God’s love. Angels have soft,
feathery wings. Angels always talk about, and act from, Love. The
"fallen angels," in contrast, have no light in them. They have short,
bat-like bony wings and clawed talons. They’re commonly called
"gargoyles." These beings aren’t creations of God’s love; they’re
creations of man’s fear........etc......
"Earthbound spirits" are another form of so-called "fallen
angels." These are deceased humans who, for a variety of reasons (fear
of hell, materiality and so on.), stay rooted to earth. They are
sometimes called ghosts.............etc.......
Think about God
as often as you can. And call upon the Archangel Michael, who escorts
away fear and darkness, to act as your "bouncer," ensuring that only
invited guests are by your side and in your home. For more information on this topic, please see Doreen’s books,
Archangels & Ascended Masters, Angel Therapy, Chakra Clearing, The Lightworker’s Way, or Healing with the Angels."
In the above taken from Virtue 's own angel therapy website she is saying there are no fallen angels & she is saying that what people refer to as
fallen angels are created by man's fears ( Not angels made by God who turned from Him ) & thus
she is denying the whole battle of Lucifer against God ( A Battle where some say as much as 1/3 of Heaven's angels fell in the rebellion of God's angels from Him fighting to take over Heaven - a battle that happened before the creation of man) and yet she has been claiming to be an angel specialist with Hay House's endorsement ...
No one caught this ... wow
Anyone want to please explain to me how if there was no battle between Lucifer and Archangel Michael what significance the angel Michael would really have as anything?
To a Christian can you explain ... how If there was no Lucifer the fall of man in the garden of Eden could be real..
How many Christians would have paid to go see a woman claiming she speaks and hears angels if they knew she denies Lucifer and the fall of man to sin... if they had been told this ...
Why did no skeptic call this out as something to look at to Christians long ago?
James Van praagh endorses Virtue as real ..
And has for years..
James Van Praagh heavily plugging Doreen Virtue
How could this be missed ..
By Not looking at
WHAT was being taught &
who plugs whom as something to very validly call out ...not just psychics hits.
Not that Virtue seems to get any solid psychic hits ..
If you in the skeptic community only want to plug the atheist ideals never talking of anything else that could shine light to believers in God in how what they believe does not line with those calling them to the new age ..you will be unable to protect those who believe in God from those who would take them. It become the total non-believing atheists against the ones selling the fruit of the new age - eat and be like God .. With the prey still being taken... Amp it up skeptics.. an intuitive calls to you and says you are needed.
James Van Praagh wants to knock all skeptics as lesser..
James Van Praagh tries to get Mavis to call Skeptics bad... While not thinking about how much he now says that gives everyone reason to be skeptical about him. While Van Praagh talks about personal responsibility at one point in this video being tied to mediumship .
Mavis Pattilla and James Van Praagh When I called to Van Praagh to take personal responsibility in what he endorses and to call out wrong suicide information and to stop endorsing Doreen Virtue selling mediumship to all via dvd against his own teachings. . he blew it off ...
The below is how I feel about James Van praagh sending me & my fellow JVP 5 day classmates to see the stupidest shit ever said in the name of angels.. to a demonstration where life was risked and where his soul sister made up crap in the name of spirit while charging people $125- $150 each... and then when I called everyone to fix it the bitch threatened to sue me for doing what was right . And then he did nothing when I called him to do what was right to save life ... I asked him to step up to protect life because I thought like an idiot he was actually talking to heaven when he wasn't..
I know the fake spirit crap demeans all those it touches..
It demeans Hay House owners Louise Hay & Reid Tracy for publishing it & presenting it at the cost of their fellow souls..
It demeans those spewing it.
It demeans those who hear it and get taken in it.
It demeans those who know it is crap and yet fail to call it out for their personal gain.
It echoes in the future.. when it is taught down the road as a truth that shall never be true.
And , it blocks the way of those who would not give us crap..
Those who seek truth can not align with such as those at Hay House as they are now.
Those who love their brothers can not endanger their lives in false medical info nor the choices they might make in failing to reach their full potential by being taught false methods or by making their choices on the flip of a deck.
Life is sacred. Every life.
Skeptics...Expand the skeptical reach .... to where you are needed.
Not as a push in atheism.. But in love for your fellow man in helping him /her think and be safe
even if he or she chooses to believe in God .
Who knows who may die this coming Fall tied to New Age angel crap if you fail...
Virtue's suicide comment stands never corrected almost 2 yrs after it went out and her anti-flu shot vaccine posts are still up.....online where any of her over 500,0000 Facebook fans with a simple Google search may come upon them this fall when they ponder what angels think of flu shots..
At the bottom part of my blog you shall see mini sections of who is plugging her shit - and I want you to think of the fans .. the fans who might fall to bullshit and flu shot denial in the name of angels bullshit. And I want to ask you think of all those who can not flu shots or other shots due to immune trouble - should they die to angel bullshit? Those who can not get shots depend on us to bring them herd immunity.
Blogger shares important angel Message from Doreen Virtue no flu shots
Elderberries .. Doreen Virtue plugs evils flu shots via Natural News
Her angel guidance says say no to FLU SHOTS
Tv ads and warnings to get flu shots to save life... Hypnosis according to Virtue
What You Should Know for the 2014-2015 Influenza Season
CDC Weekly flu summary
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Mr. D. J. Grothe...
Mr. Van Praagh tells us all that there is no hell or sin..
~~Love is the only real thing that exists.. James Van Praagh~~~
Should I tell the people in Israel it's love when they are having air strikes?
Should I tell the family members of of murder victims they were murdered in love?
Mr. Grothe if there is no hell can you please explain for us from a Christian perspective what that means in perspective to the crucifixion of Christ & who Jesus Christ was ?
From a Christian perspective would it make any sense that those in Heaven would tell Mr. Van Praagh to tell us stuff that would deny Christ's death having meaning?
How many Christians would have paid Van Praagh to "talk "to their dead if they knew that what he was professing if you looked at the logic of it was basically saying that Christ died for nothing since there is no hell for him to have saved any of us from . Yet,.. we do not have this called out to the public by skeptics ....for no atheist will go there.. But, the people being taken are not atheists...And they Believe Jesus died for a reason..
Lets talk "manifestation"...
James Van Praagh in AZ last Feb stood on a stage stating : "There is no one God.. There are many gods. We are all gods." My heart hit the ground & I almost broke out crying. He was professing the ramifications of what the concept of 'The secret"/manifestation is built upon .For the idea that you via your thoughts and energy create the actual world ( not just energy reacting with energy but actually creating ) around you literally to actually be true as they now present it in the new age ... that would require you to be a god.
New agers are careful where they clearly spell it out since if they clearly spelled it out on TV....Most Christian pastors would call that shit out faster than Sarah Palin calling out a liberal on Fox News....
It seems to me based on my limited spiritual background ...that the basis of the manifestation teaching as it is being presented is New Age Pantheism & thus it calls for the denial of the God of Judaism /Christianity .. Yet, no on calls Van Praagh or anyone else out on this..
Would not the people paying JVP who are Christians who believe in Jesus want to know what he teaches that they would never go for if they clearly understood it ahead before they pay to show up to his events? JVP it seems to me is teaching people how to be their own false idols..And via his failure to take responsibility when he endorses that which can kill via Doreen Virtue's false suicide statements and her dangerous vaccine statements... he is teaching his fans and students risking human life is okay in the psychic fame game.... while it is anything but RIGHT..
Mr Randi...
Why does no skeptic call to Oprah . Oprah how do you betray the suffering of your black people & their wrongful enslavement by teaching people they manifest all that happens to them so therefore your are saying the black people's enslavement is their own fault? I don't see the NAACP falling for persons of color are at fault for harm done to them.. so why do they not call out the you manifest all that happens to you when it comes from one of their own? Why does no one think?
Why does no skeptic call to Oprah how does she blame children molested sexually and rape victims for what predators do to them?
If everything that happens to you , you manifested... then every rape , attack, mugging, and murder ...is the victim's fault right? We should therefore punish those who are the victims of crime for making others do such to them right? Would not the manifestation concept really mean in ways no one had given much thought to that the wrong people are in prison if one really thought about it..
But let us think on this further is not being told you are at fault for that which is not your fault - a cruel sick prison of its own kind spiritually and psychologically to place another soul in? Who would dare do this to another and call themselves spiritual anything? Who shall call this out? Does the Bible say Job manifested all the crap that happened to him? Did the man whose wife King David lusted after so much that he was killed for it - manifest being murdered for a king's lust? What prophet of God has ever taught you are god and you manifest everything that happens to you?
If someone in Saudi Arabia punishes a rape victim for being raped the world cries out...
but when Oprah or Dr. Phil plug some psychic on TV telling us all everything that happens to us we manifested ... no one it calls out.( And yes... I wrote DR Phil on Facebook about how when he plugs Dougall Fraser and Collete Baron Reid on his show .. they are turning around and off show endorsing John Holland who leads them to Doreen Virtue ) .. People hear the false hope of you can have and be all.. but not the shadow side implied within that concept of if everything that happens to you.. you manifest then all the bad shit happening to you is all your fault.
No one thinks.. Help them think Mr Randi. Hugs to you..
I am praying for you.. It's no wonder a Catholic priest wanted to save you .. who could not want to have you around forever.. Even though you and I shall never agree on God until probably that day when you meet God.. & I just love the way you protect people from the bullshit of Homeopathy..
Randi I am so floored how you who have no belief in soul are more of a soul about protecting your fellow human beings lives than all those who claim extreme spirit gifts... your love of your fellow man is admirable. I so hope someone shows you the gifts of soul before you pass.. not to take you for your money ...but in love...
I stand in full support of your calling people to think about whether they are being sold hogwash when they are sick .
People deserve real medicine when they are sick . They need real medicine with the greatest known effectivenss.. Not the homepathy or the crap from Esther Hicks who is endorsed by James Van Praagh .
Abraham Hicks tells us dangerous Bullshit ..
Signed
Mary-Desiree
Hoping to see you all @ Tam 2015 if work will let me off & if I can swing it financially.
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The ripple .. who is pushing fans toward Doreen Virtue directly and one degree out..
Doreen Virtue endangers her fans & any sent by
James Van Praagh when she tells them not to get certain vaccines due to her angel insights and when they hear wrong suicide info.
Note above image was not with Wallet - that was altered by someone online and I just had to share it.. For this is what they really love when they say its all about love..
But real Love isn't letting people die due to bullshit... Love doesn't leave people with WRONG SUICIDE info.. Love doesn't risk people in vaccine denial.. Love doesn't send people to those who pretend to sell them any spiritual gift when real gifts can not be purchased at any price and trying to buy them leads to eternal death... according the Bible .
Gabrielle
Bernstein plugging Doreen Virtue book to her fans
online in her segment called The power of your words
Gabby Plugs Doreen Virtue & her segment The reason 11:11 Pops up so often.
- setting them up to be harmed in any of Virtue's wrong medical
statements & taken in angel bull .( I wrote Bernstein & told her of Virtue wrong
suicide info whether she will continue to endorse Virtue I do not know. Bernstein is a presenter of Chopra's upcoming world meditation event .)
John Holland plugs Doreen Virtue to his fans via his
online book list. his Facebook likes and Pinterest and at events despite
watching her give out wrong suicide info ( Yes I've written him and
told him this is immoral and wrong to endanger life in psychic fraud . He
cares not. Its all about the $$ to him. Real men protect others ..instead of watching & contributing to them being endangered.)
John Edward plugging Brian Weiss to his fans..
Day 24 is Brian Weiss plug
With
Dr Brian Weiss plugging Doreen Virtue, will John Edward next want us
to believe we might be incarnated Leprechauns or Mermaids ..(I wrote Mr. John Edward months ago via Facebook to ask
him to use his fame to call out the danger of Doreen Virtue. I hoped he
would do something to protect life because I thought he really talked to
dead people. He did nothing. Did he put Dr. Brian Weiss on his Evolution
series knowing Weiss had a deck coming out with Doreen Virtue ?
Weiss whores his integrity deck. Weiss Forever stuck plugging Doreen Virtue
Doreen Virtue seemingly sells mediumship via her Angel University LLC
(
$400 Mediumship for all DVD set. No matter that most mediums say not everyone is or can be a medium..
) .
Virtue tells people they might be incarnated
Leprechauns & other magical incarnated beings..
Doreen Virtue's Realm Reader plug
One book where Virtue says people could be incarnated Leprechauns came out in 2007 ... yet no one in the New Age called this crap out.
John Edward plugs someone tied to this crap in Dr. Brian Weiss and James Van Praagh plugs it as real by plugging Doreen Virtue as real angel communicator and they want to questions why no one believes in them?
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Please check out what is being posted in the Doreen Virtue Certified Realm Reader Facebook page.. I love to share the space w/ my friends just to see their reactions. So far none of my friends upon viewing the page have signed up for the Realm Reader course .. so I still have no idea what realm I am in Doreen Virtue land ...
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With John Edward pushing his fan base toward Brian Weiss
did he not have the moral obligation to make sure none of them would
ever be endangered via Doreen Virtue's false medical statements? If you can not buy mediumship or angel gifts and if giving out wrong suicide info is wrong and telling people not to get flu shots as an angel message is wrong ..
Did not Medium John Edward have the moral obligation to call the crap out by Doreen Virtue instead of tying himself into the weave of the fraud tapestry by plugging those who lead people to her?
